KA-T -or- SR

[SiRII490]

always a heated discussion when it comes to 240s. and i am bored at work and would like to here peoples input as to what they prefer, and why...

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[sleeprnx2k]

Sr20de-t red top is a great motor and it's almost bullet proof and loves boost

[DatsunZ]

sr is a great motor, but a ka-t will do just fine, and cost less. long as you have good engine management, and dont drive like a fuckstick the motor should be plenty stout.

[jaCkee]

there have been dicussion about ka-t or sr but from what i read from people they like ka-t because they make more power or something i dont remember but im more into sr i went sr in my 240 and loving it!

[1stHonda]

I went kat,built 240,hands down will outperform an sr for way less money,kat 700whp no problem,cheep money

[4thGen4Door]

if your trying to keep it a 240 go for the ka-t

[mugenmanr]

Ka-t because I have one, and stupid sr are a pain in my ass.

[got eg6?]

KA-T All the way!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mugenmanr]

i retrat my statement sr20 are fast as fuckkk

[chapNUTZ_#1]

SR all day, way better engine than junky KA's. head flows better, they rev higher, parts are more readily available, a stock sr will make more power and outlast a built ka. SR swap all day!!!!!!

[mugenmanr]

SR all day, way better engine than junky KA's. head flows better, they rev higher, parts are more readily available, a stock sr will make more power and outlast a built ka. SR swap all day!!!!!!

i would beg to differ on a stock sr vs a stock ka-t the ka will shit on it. no offence.

[Killersentra]

Ya ya this debate can go on for ever and ever about which one is better. The SR will make more power out the box unmodified for one....Without a doubt the Ka can hang with the SR when it is fully built but at the end of the day the SR will win. It just has more support avaliable for it as far as parts go. A way superior head mechanical wise,and electronicly. This is like comparing a a B-series to a D-series. Both have their share amount of fans. I am sure everyone knows which setup will make more power in the end... your opinion would be biased to say other wise.

SR all day, way better engine than junky KA's. head flows better, they rev higher, parts are more readily available, a stock sr will make more power and outlast a built ka. SR swap all day!!!!!!

Though I don't agree with the junky part of your statement we are pretty much on the same page. Just because the SR will be able to rev higher that will translate into a faster car on the track. I am not going to get into details on that because it will need a separate thread dedicated just for that purpose.

I went kat,built 240,hands down will outperform an sr for way less money,kat 700whp no problem,cheep money

Do you mind listing your set up please.....this should be interesting.

[preludeboy]

im with this guy all day...theres a reason why the ka is na outa the box and sr is turbo outa the box

[mugenmanr]

i understand were hes coming from but everyone has personal preffrence. example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoD_lzmPloY i love ka-t.

[EF_Jeremy]

K's are bigger motorss

[Killersentra]

i understand were hes coming from but everyone has personal preffrence. example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoD_lzmPloY i love ka-t.

O yea I hear ya man I respect both motors. I have been lucky to have the opportunity to work with both motors. They both have features that I would like to steal and implement into one perfect motor but......I have to counter your 7.7 second run with this video of a 240sx with a SR20 under the hood.......you be the judge.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gLhtONrO3o&feature=related

[mugenmanr]

hrm. its nasty. and puttin both motors together would be pretty nasty. its all comes down to prefrence. off the bat. ka-t is cheeper, comes factory, and a turbo kit with some work will come to a price of a stock sr. all in good nature. its nice to have a good debate on this w.o people being stupid.

[94civichatch]

SR-20det over the ka-t check this out =]

http://www.youtube.com/user/94civichatch#p/f/1/SxuYCXgrCNQ

but i rather go RB-20/5/6 =]Dance

[Killersentra]

SR-20det over the ka-t check this out =]

http://www.youtube.com/user/94civichatch#p/f/1/SxuYCXgrCNQ

but i rather go RB-20/5/6 =]Dance

Ahaha good run...I love those B12 sentras ......RB is another story for another day......

[mugenmanr]

SR-20det over the ka-t check this out =]

http://www.youtube.com/user/94civichatch#p/f/1/SxuYCXgrCNQ

but i rather go RB-20/5/6 =]Dance

rb-20 is junk rb-26 mega expensive, rb-25 is the only sick one. then the ca-18 is a hellla nasty motor too

[HPIracing166]

Funny story from a week or two ago there was a 240 there running a turbo KA24 and blew it up on the last run throwing a rod through the block and dumping oil everywhere. Second motor they built by the way the first one they blew up to. The KA motors arent built for lots of boost, so for the amount of money you put into a KA to try and make it reliable for good power you might as well get a SR20 and put some money into it since its already built for boost practically. Also having more displacement doesnt mean you have more power for example the B20 doesnt have more power than the B18B. One last thing the RB20 isnt that bad i had a friend who ran a RB20 with a cummins turbo on it and ran fast times close to high 10s i believe cant remember tho. Anyways the RBs are built for straights they are made of iron and iron is heavy just go with a well built aluminum SR20. Light and Fast.

[mugenmanr]

eh. my stock ka on 13lbs will destory any factory sr. and mine was still cheeper. end of story.

[esi96]

eh. my stock ka on 13lbs will destory any factory sr. and mine was still cheeper. end of story.

Bump:corona2::corona2:

[Killersentra]

eh. my stock ka on 13lbs will destory any factory sr. and mine was still cheeper. end of story.

How much power your putting out at 13lb? What's your set up?

[mugenmanr]

20g top mount, 550cc topfeed injectors, 3in dp, fmic, walbro fuel pump, afpr, wideband, 300zx maf, emanage. stock motor. havent drove it still needa fix a few things. but i can say i know i will :D

[Killersentra]

20g top mount, 550cc topfeed injectors, 3in dp, fmic, walbro fuel pump, afpr, wideband, 300zx maf, emanage. stock motor. havent drove it still needa fix a few things. but i can say i know i will :D

Very nice setup, what are your plans for the car, Do you road race...drift... ect.....?

Funny story from a week or two ago there was a 240 there running a turbo KA24 and blew it up on the last run throwing a rod through the block and dumping oil everywhere. Second motor they built by the way the first one they blew up to. The KA motors arent built for lots of boost, so for the amount of money you put into a KA to try and make it reliable for good power you might as well get a SR20 and put some money into it since its already built for boost practically. Also having more displacement doesnt mean you have more power for example the B20 doesnt have more power than the B18B. One last thing the RB20 isnt that bad i had a friend who ran a RB20 with a cummins turbo on it and ran fast times close to high 10s i believe cant remember tho. Anyways the RBs are built for straights they are made of iron and iron is heavy just go with a well built aluminum SR20. Light and Fast.

True in some sense, I don't see a problem putting down 300hp with the Ka if it's fresh.... You have a lot of guys slapping turbos on a motor with 250k miles on the dash...then they want to run 20 pounds of boost....it does not work like that ...your setting yourself up for a fail.

[mugenmanr]

I'm not setting it up for anything spific, I like doing highway runs and I tend to slide a lot lol. And your compeltely right with the fact they wana run 20lbs on a 250k motor its not gona last long

[chapNUTZ_#1]

SR over KA all day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXyQaF2Cl8M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ffXT-0YbU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFysudEe71w&feature=fvw

like to see you or anyone build a ka to perform like that, i met these guys at atco years ago. ended up selling jason and sailor from prl a VE head.
this was the car they had at the time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFysudEe71w&feature=fvw

[mugenmanr]

sr20 outa an s15 is a beast of a motor. not gona lie.

[chapNUTZ_#1]

eh. my stock ka on 13lbs will destory any factory sr. and mine was still cheeper. end of story.

not to sure about that...ive seen 240's with stock sr swaps on 15lbs and less shit all over 30r and 35r equipped sti's and evo's...i highly doubt your ka-t would smoke a stock sr equipped 240

[chapNUTZ_#1]

found a few more...the guys are really cool, knowadgeable as fcuk, and a little on the crazy side lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxoO2Qc9HgI&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgEAeQzXkrA&feature=related

[mugenmanr]

that car is fuckin nasssttyyy

[SiRII490]

to touch on a few subjects mentioned, buget wise... a sr is cheaper all said and done. with an sr you get your injectors and your fuel management your turbo ect., with ka you have to choose some shit rom tune or an expensive standalone, you also need injectors because stock ones are nearly at full inpediance, not to mention to make decent power the motor needs some supporting mods. the weak point of the ka are the rods, after upgrade its great for boost up to roughly 280hp before you need to replace maf with 300zx or similar and that can tend to get pricey depending where you buy

but for buget, sr makes sense seems likke more of a headache and more $$ up front, but its not. the swap is pretty straight forward. you can make more boost off of stock motor, last time i talked to enjukuracing they mentioned they were working on their 500hp sr and the motor is completely stock

as for mugen man r's statement of beating an sr.... that sounds like a challenge to me. lol

as for personal preference ... i used to say ka, i liked the idea of having oem parts readily availible.... but after having sr theres not much i cant get from a local parts store if needed.my sr is nearly stock with an aftermarket garret, front mount and exhaust.. and i was surprised on how well it pulls. not to mention i like how high it revs... reminds me of my hondas lol

in conclusion.... SR FTW

[massdrifter]

ca ftw. :)

[SiRII490]

ca ftw. :)


no explination??:mad0248:

ca FTL lol

[massdrifter]

no explination??:mad0248:

ca FTL lol

sr=Gayfight

[mugenmanr]

I agree with sir, no explantion get the fuck outta here. Btw welcome to the turbooptions family.

[massdrifter]

I agree with sir, no explantion get the fuck outta here. Btw welcome to the turbooptions family.

dont front you know you want me. :sex013:

[massdrifter]

in my opinion it comes down to personal preference the between ka-t and sr they can both be monsters ive played with both along with a few other nissan engines. but me personaly i have a soft spot for the ca. :)

[mugenmanr]

You have a soft spot of my cock too ;) I agree with massdrifter. It all comes down prefrence and how much moneys you got. They all have there ups and downs

[SiRII490]

agreed it is all based on preference, which is why people are supose to give there preference and why, any motor can be a monster with enough work.....

[mugenmanr]

your a monster. keep yours.